Originally Published MX September/October 2004
COVER STORY
From Image to VisionInterview by Steve Halasey
Almost by definition, executives of medical technology companies are visionaries. Whether their strengths lie in inventing medical products or creating opportunities for business growth, such leaders share an ability to conjure up ideas that few others have imagined.
One such executive with a vision of the future is Erich R. Reinhardt, DEng, president and CEO of Siemens Medical Solutions (Erlangen, Germany). As leader of one of the world's largest manufacturers of medical technologieswith 2003 revenues of nearly $9.3 billionReinhardt is well positioned to have a clear outlook on the healthcare marketplace.
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| Erich R. Reinhardt, president and CEO of Siemens Medical Solutions, on innovation and imaging in the future of healthcare. |
The results of Reinhardt's vision are apparent not only in the strength of Siemens Medical Solutions and the commercial success of its products, but also in the company's thinking about the future of healthcare. Faced with the prospect of global healthcare systems overburdened by aging populations and rising costs, Reinhardt projects an optimistic vision that emphasizes the role of medical device technologiesmore specifically, integrated healthcare information technologiesfor helping to resolve such difficult problems. Moreover, Reinhardt has backed up his vision with action, as the company's thinking about healthcare solutions is being built into new generations of products.
In this interview with MX editor-in-chief Steve Halasey, Reinhardt discusses how Siemens is seeking to turn the challenges of today's healthcare marketplace into opportunities for improving the delivery of healthcareand for the continued success of the company.
MX: As a global company, Siemens has a lot of experience with different types of customers. In your view, what are the most important weaknesses of the world's healthcare systems today?
Erich R. Reinhardt: It is always better to consider such a question in terms of the potential and opportunities for improvement. I think there are huge opportunities for increasing the efficiency of healthcare deliveryby which I mean both improvement in the quality of care and reductions in costthrough a more patient-centered system.
Is that a view shared by Siemens's customers in many countries, or do your customers' opinions vary?
Over time, we have worked hard to understand the trends in healthcare. What I have just described applies more or less to all industrialized countries. It is a very general interest.
It sometimes seems that no two groups see the healthcare system quite the same way. For instance, patients may see things one way and payers another way. Is it important that all of the different stakeholders be convinced of the same view of a problem in order for a solution to move forward?
Today's healthcare systems certainly incorporate different playersdifferent partnerseach with different interests. For this reason, if we are to achieve our potential for improving efficiency, we have to apply a holistic approach. This requires that we find the means and the tools to come to an integrated performance optimization.
Cooperationthe integration of the different partners of the healthcare systemis a key element. It is also a very challenging task because of the complexity of the whole system. But in order to optimize, it is important to understand the whole healthcare system and the interdependence of its different components. Otherwise you may wind up optimizing only a subsegment, and this may not be optimal for the system as a whole.
Building Solutions
Patients sometimes feel as though the healthcare system has forgotten them. Where do you think the patient stands now, and where would the patient be in the optimized and integrated healthcare system that you envision?
If you ask patients today, they would definitely say that they are not at the center of all the healthcare system's activities. When we look into the future, we believe better results can be attained by taking a more patient-centered approach.
One of the major areas that can be improved is clinical workflow, which can be optimized by placing the patient at the center of that workflow. For example, the clinical workflow begins when a person falls ill or is injured and does not end until that person is able to work again. The task that the healthcare system has, as a whole, is to optimize the steps for diagnosis, treatment, and rehabilitation in order to increase the patient's comfort, shorten the time required to cure the patient, and make the entire process less expensive.
The particular task for companies such as Siemens is to identify what types of products and services we can develop in order to make this happen. In this way, we can help to optimize clinical workflow both for individual patients and for the system as a whole.
To what extent would such integration extend into the design of diagnostic or treatment planning? Is there a need to work with the clinical community so that such planning can also be optimized?
Diagnostic and treatment planning is an integral part of the workflow. Optimizing the clinical workflow means developing and defining the different clinical pathways that healthcare providers will use.
At this point in time, the status of this practice is probably best described as best-practice sharing. In the long term, it will become evidence-based medicine. But one has to develop such concepts more fully to arrive at something that could truly be called evidence-based medicine. The healthcare system would have to have large databases, and it will require some time to build those databases.
Medical product manufacturers are sometimes concerned that evidence-based medicine will require them to perform costly and time-consuming clinical trials or follow-up studies. Is that concern an obstacle to the participation of manufacturers in developing medical practice databases?
Cost is always a key issue for us, and time to market is another important topic. So if this system made it take longer to bring innovation to market, it would increase costs and could become a barrier to innovation. On the other hand, we believe that the application of new information technologies can shorten time-to-market cycles, and could have a positive economic effect.
Regulatory agencies have not always been willing to approve computer-based systems that might be seen as dictating the practice of medicine. Is there now more openness to such systems?
I think dictate is the wrong word. The information provided by such systems is always a recommendation that requires a final decision by the physician. But this type of computer-aided system can offer additional information to accelerate the process of diagnosis, and objective criteria to help the physician develop a treatment plan.
It is a very exciting prospect. And we have seen results demonstrating that it is feasible to go in this direction. But making such systems as efficient and effective as they can be will require close collaboration with FDA and with the International Committee on Harmonization (ICH).
With regard to the development of such new technologies, how would you define the roles of academic researchers, healthcare professionals, and medical device manufacturers today? How do you see those roles changing in the future?
At Siemens, we know that innovation and rapid time to market are keys to our success. And in order to be fast and innovative, we believe that our customers must be an integral part of our innovation process. These notions shape our innovation process.
We involve clinicians and scientists in the very earliest phases of our innovation process. And this is not merely a matter of cooperating or interfacing with them; their activities are fully integrated with our own.
This practice represents a change compared with previous practices. What was once sequential is now concurrent engineering.
What other kinds of solutions have been proposed for improving healthcare systems? Are you aware of contrary positions among particular organizations or government agencies? Why are those weaker positions?
There isn't really a counterproposal, because nobody would argue that the goals of improving quality and reducing cost are wrong. The bigger problem is how to develop a model that can be shown to work. Sometimes healthcare stakeholders express skepticism. They may admit that an idea is a good one, but they want to be shown that it works. One of the key ways that this could be done would be to establish a real center of excellence where stakeholders could go and see.
Right now, when different healthcare systems are being discussedand this definitely applies to Europethe issues are usually framed in terms of what can be done to reduce product costs and limit overall healthcare expenditures. Inevitably, restricting coverage or limiting the performance of medical technologies is a part of that discussion. By contrast, we're asking what can be done to both improve quality of care and reduce cost.
The Role of Technology
In the vision that you put forth, the role of technology is quite striking; it's what makes the model work. How has your own background in engineering contributed to your assessment of how to address issues in the healthcare system?
Developing such a strategy requires a lot of different competencies. It is certainly important to have an ability to understand and assess the future potential of a technology in order to say 'Let's go in this direction.' So you have to have people with this ability. But at the same time, you have to have a lot of different competencies.
Technology innovation is key to our business success. If you look into the future, the potential is huge. We are not in a situation in which we are asking 'Are there any great ideas?' Our greater need is to prioritize all the ideas we already have, so that we can decide which to focus on in order to make a contribution.
The adoption and use of healthcare technologies are frequently blamed for rising healthcare costs. How does the Siemens solution address this concern?
We have to demonstrate by proven outcomes that this is not true. And correspondingly, we have to demonstrate that technical innovation will help to save money.
Based on analyses we have done in Europe, there is no evidence that investment in high-tech diagnostic equipment is the reason why healthcare expenditures are going up.
On the other hand, one can demonstrate that such technologies make it possible to improve the quality of care by reducing the time between diagnosis and initiation of treatment, by increasing patient throughput, and by reducing medication errors.
We are showing that it is possible to do bothto improve the quality of healthcare delivery and reduce costs.
A lot of hospitals have indicated that they plan to increase their spending on information technologies this year, but they are also concerned about obsolescence. Why should hospitals be spending on advanced IT systems? If newer, better systems might be coming two years from now, why should healthcare systems make the transition now?
When IT investment in healthcare is compared with that in other industries, healthcare is definitely on the low end. But hospitals should invest in order to improve the integration of their systems, and to improve their operational, clinical, and financial efficiency.
Why now? Because today the systems are powerful enough to make these improvements a reality.
But investment in information technology is only one aspect of what hospitals need to do. It is not enough just to install a new IT system and consider it done. They also have to restructure and optimize their workflow. If a hospital simply uses an IT system to map its existing processes, it will be very difficult to improve integration or achieve efficiencies.
In the past, proprietary systems have been an obstacle for companies that do not themselves make information systems. Is that changing?
Companies in the radiology sector are supporting the development of open systems, for sure. We are supporting Health Level 7 standards. And we are supporting the Integrating the Healthcare Enterprise (IHE) initiative. IHE sponsors an annual event where we can demonstrate that our components work with components from different vendors.
To give you an idea, there are numerous experts at Siemens who are engaged in over 110 committees for healthcare IT standardization. So it is a huge effort we are undertaking to develop international standards.
Do those standards extend outside the imaging and information technology community into patient monitoring and billing systems and all of the various places that customers would encounter IT systems?
The idea is to create a system of standards that would incorporate everything required in the healthcare environment. Are we there? No, we are not there. Are we on the way? I would say yes.
Industry is interested in arriving at common standards. I think everyone involved understands that in order to increase penetration one has to have an open system. And open systems require these types of standards.
Overcoming Barriers
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| "If you ask patients today, they would definitely say that they are not at the center of all the healthcare system's activities." |
Among the various constituencies of the healthcare system, which do you think are the most difficult to convince about the value of an advanced IT approach, and why?
Conceptually, all of the stakeholders are interested if it's explained to them. The real difficulty is to overcome their skepticism and to demonstrate that such a system can be realized.
You mentioned some of the workflow changes that hospitals will have to make in order to bring about such a system. Will institutions such as third-party payers or government agencies also need to rethink their policies or practices?
Payers and government agencies will have to understand the concept and incentivize aspects of the system that are supporting this approach. So if new technologies are required to bring about an integrated, IT-based approach to medicine, reimbursement systems should incentivize the use of those new technologies. This is certainly one big area that needs to be considered.
On the provider side, implementing this kind of approach will bring about fundamental changes. A workflow- or process-driven organization is different from an organization structured according to function. Creating a process-driven organization requires more than just organizational change.
There are really three components: people, process orientation, and products and services. Internally we term this P3, and it has been a guiding structure for our own transformation into a process-driven organization. But it can also be applied to the healthcare system as a whole.
Within hospitals, are there key groups that tend to be tremendously enthusiastic about such changes, and others that are lukewarm? Or is everybody equally enthusiastic or equally skeptical?
In the beginning, there is often reluctance, resistance, and uncertainty about what needs to be done and what the result will be. Sometimes groups harbor the mistaken impression that the intention of implementing an integrated system is to automate and dehumanize healthcare, which is not the case. In fact, when such a system is fully operating it should provide nurses and physicians with more time, which can be spent with individual patients or used to diagnose and treat more patients.
Siemens has put a lot of muscle behind advancing this vision. In addition to working with clinical institutions and individual professionals, do you have other partners?
Yes, we are very open to and interested in partnerships. We do not have the philosophy that the doer must do everything on its own. So there is benefit to us working together with others.
In the area of electromedical equipment, for instance, we have created a joint venture. And we do have cooperative agreements with different companies in different areas. And we are even delivering magnets and some other components to our competitors.
To our way of thinking, the key differentiator is in the area of clinical applications, not in the technology behind it.
How do you see the next generation of products moving toward the vision that you have set out? What are your product developers doing to move the company in that direction?
I believe there is huge potential for innovation in diagnostic modalities, platform technologies, and IT systems. Overall, I think the next generation of products will follow a platform concept in order to achieve R&D synergies.
Molecular medicine will have a significant impact on these developments. In disease prevention, early diagnosis of disease using in vitro techniques or mixed imaging and in vitro technologies will become more important. And in vivo molecular imaging techniques will also begin to mature. Certainly, therapies will become more individualized according to a patient's genetic profile. The monitoring of therapy will also be more specific to the individual. And in the long term, gene therapy could play a role.
But we will only be able to achieve the benefits of these techniques if we also implement IT systems capable of integrating the different components. IT systems are the backbonethe key that will make it possible to achieve all the benefits of molecular medicine.
Looking into the future in general terms, IT systems will definitely have a significant impact. The knowledge that we can generate using IT systems will make it possible to utilize all the knowledge available to the healthcare system.
The world's healthcare systems with all of their fragmented partsincluding payers, and professionals, and regulatorssometimes seem to be running in different directions. How far toward this vision are these systems capable of moving over the next decade?
I share your skepticism, because if you look at the situation today, it seems to be very, very difficult. It is a challenge. The healthcare universe encompasses many different cultures, conditions, economic positions, and systems.
On the other hand, when you consider the growing demographic and economic pressures, it is clear that it will be essential for the world's healthcare systems to use all the benefits of our knowledge and our technology. So there is hope. But I definitely do not expect that all such systems will become harmonized in the next decade.
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